I just wanted to share something that you guys might find helpful now or for future bit fitting, since in this particular case, this is not what I thought would have worked. 😂 Anyway, so if you've read my bio, you know I work with a stallion. Stallions, as one vet clinic said, "we treat them like the divas they are." They're not joking when they call them that! While the one I ride is a pretty good, he's very, and justifiably so, fussy about his tack. Recently, I had to get him new EVERYTHING. The hardest part was the bit. His previous owner (I do not own him) rode him in a D-ring, as I saw in photos. I was told by his rider before me that he couldn't be ridden in a bit because he was too mouthy. I refuse to ride such a horse as a stallion without a bit, so I decided to treat the situation as if he were a young horse. At a local tack sale, I found a copper single joint full cheek bit for cheap and decided to buy it because it had the full cheeks, which would help me should he not have very good steering. However, he is a Gypsy and being draft, he has a big tongue and low palate. Turns out he was mouthy because both bits, mine and the former rider's, were single joint and so they were jabbing him in the mouth. So, I searched for what he was ridden in to find the D-ring. Again, a bit that would help with steering. I borrowed one with my beloved double joint and while there was significant improvement, he wouldn't take contact for more than a second at a time. So, after a lot of thinking, with my only reason to try this being that a cheap dressage legal D-ring is really hard to find, I decided to borrow a loose ring double joint snaffle to see how he could take contact. It is very easy for him to blow through the bit on his stiff side, so I didn't want to make it even easier by using a straight bar. To my surprise, his steering was improved despite the "weak" cheekpieces, the loose ring even made him better on his stiff side, and he was MUCH happier to take contact!! All this to say, it's absolutely worth trying the opposite of what you think would work. Sometimes, that's exactly what's needed! 😁